Law Professor: "Shameful to support men and women who have gone overseas to kill other human beings."

The professor has the right to speak his mind but its a shame he is a moron who doesn't know or doesn't appreciate who protects him....His world could change in a nanosecond. A bright orange cloud over New York City and he would be begging for a gun.

Very refreshing! After 32 years in uniform I sometimes look at fellow citizens and say "Who ARE you? And why have I been defending YOU?" But there are always 5% who just don't get it. Some of them are very helpful by self-identifying. After all, a professor is someone who teaches. Have we learned nothing from this professor? His rationale for why people go to SWA is merely ignorance. I say Hallelujah that he is free to spout, in English, his belief in his ignorance. And I say Bravo to the the student of law who so neatly staked the dude on the anthill of public opinion.

Such morons have the right to free speech but not a right to avoid the consequences of their words. Only the government can violate 1st amendment rights. Employers are free to fire someone for their comments. Such liberals frequently praise terrorists as 'freedom fighters' but quickly denounce servicemembers of democratic countries. He is a part of the 'Blame America first' crowd which has Obama as a proud member.

There are more people out there than just this one professor that think and say the same thing and that's ok, we all know their out there, their opinion did not stop us from our duty to each other, God and country. I didn't do my 22 years to impress those who people who disent but for their right to be able to. Your always gonna run into people like this man, you can either agree to disagree with him and others like him or let them get into your head. I hope you just agree to disagree with him and don't let him in your head. Thank you all for your service and for being there for our fellow brothers and sisters.

We could have used someone like him in Viet Nam. While the VC were advancing, we could had had him stand up & lecture them on why it's morally wrong to be a soldier & kill someone. While I don't like what he says, I will still defend this douchebags right to say it.

What is shameful his comment. I find it unconscionable that a man with his education is stupid enough to publicly articulate the opinion he did in reference to the “care packages for military personnel”. His utterances are an insult to this nation. In contrast, he should be grateful that persons are willing to go defend this nation, thereby giving those like him the opportunity to make such offensive comments.

Al, the one thing that I know for sure is that you never served a day in your life. Get a life. Professor, you are an educated idiot. You also need to try and get a real job away from your sanctimonious educational world before you preach to those of us who have.

Is that the result of higher education? Let me tell you something from someone who comes from lower education. I will say it in a fashion that even you can understand. DOUCHE!!!!

Seriously..........what some people will do to get recognition......

I am a former combat Marine of the Viet Nam War and served as a civilian adviser attached to the U.S. Military and other coalition troops in Afghanistan (2006-2008). I have been wounded twice and lost many friends to the horrors of warfare (during and after combat).

Indeed, every American citizen has the freedom of speech as long as that speech is not inflammatory to the point of inciting a riot or inciting a normal prudent person to commit violence. Thank God we still have such freedoms in our country. I defy that same professor or any other professor to visit Afghanistan or Iraq and voice the same opinion against the Afghanistan military or Afghanistan National Police. I am afraid he would be arrested, beaten severely, and stoned to death by the general populous while the Afghan Police and Afghan Army stood by; cheering the menacing crowd to kill the defiant infidel from America. I have no doubt that same professor would cry out for help from the same U.S. military personnel he previously slandered and condemned for faithfully carrying out the duties to America they had sworn to uphold. It is a shame we do not have more loyal citizens who are willing to put their life on the line in behalf of the fools in this country who feel they should provide such emotional, misdirected responses to a common cause for the good. I have no doubt, this same professor supports better treatment for inmates in every prison in the country to make sure that they receive air conditioned cells, three, well-balanced meals a day, and comfortable beds in which to sleep. Ironically, our troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, and every previous war have never been afforded such luxuries.

I too feel shame Mr. Michael Avery, but not for the same reason. I feel shame that you have attempted to rely on your influence as a professor to sway the opinions of our young men and women in support of a warped, frustrated man. I feel shame, because I too teach for a university and realize that my students will naturally categorize all professors as staunch supporters of such warped sense of reality. Those of us who are in positions of authority and influence must be held to a higher standard...a standard that holds us responsible for our actions and our speech. Of course that is just my opinion.

Thanks for listening.

Barry Goodson

My father fought in WWI. He was from Poland but he probably fought against some of his relatives who had to fight for the Germans. He was glad to fight for this country. By the way he became a U.S. Citizen AFTER WWI. Maybe we should have the illegal immigrants fight for this country in order to become legal citizens. Barbara8u

Sorry guys, we spend our blood for as@@holes like this! Be proud! He would not make it 2 days in basic training and the most he is or ever will be is a leach on us. Remember what we used to do to leaches? Don't sweat the leaches of the world. We will have them always. Robert Heinland said it best, if you have not served your country you have not right to speak, so just shut up and be quite! Just my thoughts as a proud veteran! would do it again in a heartbeat.

yo ra u fought and bled 4 your country. what happened you fight with a p38 and cut yourself on the can? you f...king leg.if all felt like u and that candy ass lawyer we would be speaking german or some other dictators language. although he does have a right 2 his belief on that i agree however i call on all real americans to boycot anything he is involved with .

All I have to say that our young heroes today have to put up waiting for a command to engage an enemy while incoming is hitting all around them and they cannot trust their counterparts as they enter into enemy territory. This professor or should I say professional student stayed in school as a coward would. This guy is probably in Hanoi Jane's fan club while we were up to our hips in rice paddies trying to stop the VC and NVA from killing his colleagues(the educators) in Vietnam. We were just baby killers as far as his type were concerned. He should see what tyrant regimes do to their own countrymen which American Sons, Daughters, Mothers, and Fathers sacrifice their lives and their families peace of mind. Also, without our children and grandchildren being in schools you would not have a job. Enough said since he is a professor he should get the point.

He has the right to say what he thinks. Because a soldier died to give him that right. In any case, the professor might say thanks to the next soldier who dies and keep making an ass of himself.

Yes, sir. You have every right to express your opinion in accordance with the first amendment of our nation’s constitution which I am glad to add that I defended for over 30 years, retiring 5 years ago. We all hope you have a safe and good night’s sleep in you comfy home with a warm bed and sure a marvelous meal with family and friends. No doubt you are a better educated person than I. I would never trade your carrier for the one that I have spent with so many awesome Americans over the past 30 years. It is a shame that you basically call us killers and no respect for your freedoms and privileges that you enjoy and take for grant each and every day. No, I’m not ticked at you…I feel sorry for you. Sleep tight tonight buddy….my friends are watching your six.

Send , his ass or his kid over there and we'll see if he sends care packs. I served In the Navy 1964-1970. I have a son in Afghanistan now, I send a package every month to him and to others.

Check out his page at Suffolk - he attended Moscow University - no surprise - Huh? Check it out http://www.law.suffolk.edu/faculty/directories/faculty.cfm?InstructorID=...

All I can say is its better to let everyone think your an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it!!!

I agree with the other RA vet. It hurt like hell to see my best friend die, for a bunch of politicians. Yep most of us Viet Vets are bitter. We served, did our duty, got spat upon, but we are Oath Keepers. Politicians your day is comming.

I think what you mean is "Thank you"...asshole.

Let me see Joe Paterno was dismissed for almost being involved in the Penn State incident, but this jerk off can say what he said and not be at the very least charged like the UCMJ? I say if you are not going to fire him, he should be fined $3000.00 dollars per month for 6 months, given EPD in a super max prison for 6 months, and confined to his living quaters for no less than one year, with restrictions on all forms of electronics, up to and including the television. That should make him think twice before he bad mouths the very people that gave him the ability, and the right to say that stupid crap.

Law and freedom. Opposite ends of the spectrum. No one expected the pig to whistle!

This guy (Avery) is a jackass...aside from being studious enough to pass a bar and pretentious enough to get a job as a law professor, probably hasn't done too much*. If he were truly wise, his opinion would reflect that war is, quite simply but popularly eluding, a symptom of failed diplomacy**. And while servicemen believe that, while flawed, our country and system is better than any other to date. And that, while that may be the reason they are there (to protect way of life, family), they are imminently protecting their brethren next to them, who have also honorably chosen the same.
Our country showed wisdom and restraint in absolving from WWII (until Lend-Lease (political)...and
imminent threat (security)...but when we entered, the country understood that it was for a cause
of defense (one of our tenants), and the country reinforced.
Vietnam*** was different. We entered as an (est.) 8-week opposition to a communist action, and left as a disarrayed country after a decade of war (familiar?). While initially supportive, our country spit on the soldiers instead of the politicians and champions that they should have...lessons learned (I hope). At least, so far, our populous is supportive...but rhetoric like Avery's is as dangerous as an uncontainable fatal virus.

-Spoken from a Vet. Comments welcome.

*Such adjectives may not be representative of all of the individuals in the aforementioned
groups...just those that portray the stereotype!
**Note to all on this: Please research, then vote; not the reverse. This statement is also a comment on the inability to maintain such a presence of strength and righteousness that the threat of disruption to peace will result in an imminent demise to those who threaten it.
***Korea, Desert Storm, and others not to be excluded.
****Respect to the author (MOTHAX)...very well written...plus I had to look up three words(!), two
of which were used properly, and all of which I will adopt: Indubitably, similar to undoubtedly,
but more appropriate, I knew it from inference but never really adopted it; alacrity...beautiful;
and schook, which appears to be (inappropriately jovially) representative of his actions (verb) rather than him (noun)..not jovial). Either way...I still appreciate the article and the author..(really!...who quits law school to go play in the sand and get shot at? (Answer: A convicted soldier (convicted as in beyond doubt, not in the way the word has been contorted)). ...Cheers (and Hoorah!).

About 30 years ago, I somehow managed to obtain a college degree. It is a miracle because there is much inbreeding among college professors who want to be liberal socialist like our "wonderful" president. I wish all of those liberal dumbasses would go to a socialist country where they belong

Look, this man is not an educated "professor" as he lacking in "support" of our kids away from home. What difference does it make to him? It doesn't cost him money or his time so PLEASE, don't let him waste our time. Our kids fought for his right to speak (no matter how stupid) but go tell someone else that might care what you think. We are thankful to these kids, they aren't at home with us, we miss them and the least we can do, even if we don't know them personally, is let them know, we, at home miss, love and care about them, especially at Christmas. Shame on YOU "professor", Shame

As a Suffolk Law alum, I want to point out that this all came up in the context of efforts by the vast majority of the Suffolk Law community to support the troops. Avery is typical of his his ilk (Soviet-trained - yes, Moscow U. 1968-69), yelling academic freedom, while calling it "shameful" for others to exercise their own fee speech in support of the troops. Can't do much about him at the school - academic freedom, you know, but he is the author of a popular law book, Handbook of Massachusetts Evidence. There are altenatives. Cancel your subscriptions!

Here we go again!! Another 'expert" who gets all of his experience out of a book and has probably never been out of his own zip code. We have thousands just like him in this country who just "talk or write" about many issues but never get truly involved with making real changes as our Military and First Responders do. Yet these humps continue to make six figure salaries by offering an "opinion" or reccommend that we have another expensive "study" on the matter.

I did not ask to go to Nam. I did not ask those rag heads kill Americans on 9-11, that so called teacher is also bring rag heads here to live, and letting them spread there so called ONE GOD. be for long ALL AMERICANS, PS. MENT TO SAY RAG HEAD LAND........... He will bow to the west 6 times a day, and He will say only the words they put in his mouth. SICK of these so called peace lovers,

This guy has the right to say what he wants to. But We also have the right to give our opinons. It is so easy to be sitting here in our safe country and put down those that are doing their best for us and other people wanting to be free. The best thing we can do is to just ignore these people that enjoy ther freedoms that we have fought for. I am a disabled vetern of Vietnam (twice) and Desert Storm. Send your care packages to our people because they will truely enjoy anything from home.
-Ding

Perhaps the professor would like to be reminded that if our troops weren't over there killing them, they'd be over here killing us. Under most circumstances it isn't right to take another life but, if the other person is intent on killing us. we have a right to defend ourselves. I'm thankful that we have men and women willing to protect our nation against those who wish to do us harm.

Apparently he doesn't understand who has helped to protect his / our Bill of Rights, and also who has been trying to help other people in different countries to recieve their freedoms instead of being pressed into dictatorship / socialist / or communist governments. Some people just likes to put people down that protects others. I am glad he supports those in the military thru taxes all these years, otherwise we would have been ran over by radical mouths lacking in guts to stand to fight for what is right.

This man should be happy that the military members volunteered to endure whatever obstacles and dangers to give him the freedom to say that without fear. I spent twenty years in the snow in Germany and Korea, cleaning up hydrogen bomb test sights in the south pacific, living in the desert. Also what I thought was the hardest is long separations and low pay straining a family. If you were one of the few that stayed married, god bless. Don't be mad but feel sorry and prey for him because he would not be able to survive that life. If he he ever read the bible, he would know that the bible talks about wars and the time to fight is mentioned.
He needs to look further that his small world and see the real world.
I'll prey he may understand one day and let go of the devil.
Don't teach you students in your selfish mind.
Gary Owen! Hoo ah!

Seems to me that had he served and been there He would be happy to know that we do it to give them a touch of home. Let us meet at his going away stand in line and take a dump before the dirt is put in is face. You know GOD will still forgive him if he knows how to ask but I don't think he will take the time . GOD bless our troops and God bless AMERICA if we haven't caused him to turn his back and say I don't know you anymore. Thanks for giveing an old man something to talk about

This Law Professor should be grateful that he has the freedon to teach and make a stupid remark like he just has. Paid for by our troops overseas.

Read his bio. He went to some college in the USSR in the 1960s wonder what his politics are and what poison he is spreading to the students.

He may know the law but what else?

Obviously, this pompus "instructor of our children" was not in the military and overseas to recieve a package from Mom that contaied what was once his favorite batch of cookies, reduced to bits and pieces in the mail system, yet they tasted so very good with his Buddies enjoying them as well. Just as Mom's package says to her son or daughter...I love you and miss you, the care packages to the troops say..."we love you and we appreciate what you do in the name of freedom.

Professor Avery is certainly entitled to voice his opinion, even though as an honorably discharged Army Veteran of the 1980s, I find it insulting, outrageous, condescending and in extremely questionable taste. Yep, another "tolerant" leftwing Prof who is quite adept at offending and insulting others.

We risk our lives to defend this country and it's citizens from enemies..."both foreign and domestic " That line was a part of the oath we took when we enlisted...BUT so many of us forget or ignore the second part....,We are very aware of the "foreign enemies " but we tend to overlook the "domestic ones" We should make a law that says that persons like this who " aid and abet " the enemies of our country,...should be stripped of their U.S. citizenship and sent to live in the foreign country that they support... and be barred from applying for citizenship to this nation for no less than TEN (10) years from the date they were deported...,Then they should be subject to the full regimen of qualifactions for citizenship....just like other immigrants.....and I don't mean swimming the Rio Grande..

he spent most of hi time bent over!!!!! taking it (up) like the pig he is!!! I MY OPION

He may have the right to say what he wants and so do I. He should get down on his knees and thank us for him being alive because of what we did - he is a very ungrateful man, i am so proud that is was able to defend my country. people like him should be deported.

This is what we support when we send our kids to College. It is time for the universities to take responsibility for their employees. This Professor is a risk to humanity.

Show me his DD-214. Show me his GI bill eligibility documents. show me his VA claim number show me his Law Degree. If he has the first three .....he can say whatever he wants.....with the knowledge gained from getting all the first three..... the fourth one is what the first three have insured. If he only has the fourth one....his grade is 25.... out of a possible 100! and obviously a FAIL!

I think we should send the Professor overseas with the same supplies our troops get BUT NOT anything extra sent to troops from our generous citizens to help give them a "taste of home" plus items they do not get or get enough to last. Thank God for charities and my favorite, "MooreMart" out of New Hampshire.

Chuck, maybe you will find yourself in a situation that some vigilante would just do us all a favor and put a Cap in the back of your head.

This professor is a little mixed up. Our troops are sworn to obey their Commander-in-Chief, the President of the US. He is the one that decides to kill people and send troops to do it. Not our loved ones who risk their lives for the US.

When I was in the Army I had no choice about where I was sent and I don't think that is any different today. I was and they are the instrument of the American People.

The American People elect their representitives and those same decide the policy of the nation with regard to defense.

We can disagree but the way decisions are made is at the ballot box and we all agree, as a social contract, that we will abide by the laws and hold the correct people responsible for the acts of the American people through their government.

We should resent people who buy the government because that subverts the social contract and it puts the men and women of the military not in the hands of the America People but in the hands of those who have the money to subvert the process.

Either way, the American soldier is doing his/her duty and their job.

To blame the instrument is stupid!. To blame the person aiming the instrument is correct but takes courage. The question is whether America has the courage to discipline those who have bought off the referees and corrupted the process.