Fraudulent PTSD claims clogging the system, stealing from those who need help

 
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Fraudulent PTSD claims clogging the system, stealing from those who need help

A thoroughly disconcerting article from the LA Times that Jonn Lilyea caught...

As disability awards for PTSD have grown nearly fivefold over the last 13 years, so have concerns that many veterans might be exaggerating or lying to win benefits. Moering, a former Marine, estimates that roughly half of the veterans he evaluates for the disorder exaggerate or fabricate symptoms.

PTSD disability

Depending on severity, veterans with PTSD can receive up to $3,000 a month tax-free, making the disorder the biggest contributor to the growth of a disability system in which payments have more than doubled to $49 billion since 2002.

"It's an open secret that a large chunk of patients are flat-out malingering," said Christopher Frueh, a University of Hawaii psychologist who spent 15 years treating PTSD in the VA system.

 

Oof.  Some of the stories are REALLY bad:

Even some veterans whose diagnosis falls under deep suspicion have managed to keep their disability ratings.

In one case that Moering reviewed in 2009, he searched military records and concluded that a Navy veteran on the disability rolls for PTSD had lied to VA clinicians about having served in the elite SEALs and concocted his combat history.

The VA responded by reducing his PTSD rating from 50% to 30%, records show.

I have a good buddy that received a Silver Star for service in Afghanistan.  He was having some trouble, so he decided to seek help and go to a group therapy session.  He only went once.  He said that fully 50 percent of the stories were obvious fakes.  It made him so mad he was in worse shape when he left, and basically felt so angry and sad that he's resolved never to go back.

I don't even know what to tell him.  He's trying to deal with something that is painful to him, and he finds others who basically wish they'd done the things he had. 

Jonn's take lays out my opinion as well:

[W]e’ve seen folks who claim that they have PTS because they were at 8th & I and saw the smoke from the Pentagon on 9/11. One fellow claims that he had PTS from listening to other combat veterans’ war stories. Yet another claimed that he has PTS because he DIDN’T deploy and he was worried about his unit while they deployed. Another claimed that he caught the PTSD from his drill sergeants. Beat your wife and kids? PTS made you do it. Rob a bank? PTSD caused it. Driving drunk? You were self-medicating for PTSD. Wear a Bronze Star Medal and a Green Beret you didn’t earn? PTS, dude. Did you watch a guy murder someone and didn’t report it to the police? Well….

PTS is hip and cool and the catch-all for all bad behavior. And all of the malingerers just keep the real cases that need to be treated away from the doctors and the stuff they need to cope with it, because who wants to be lumped in with the fakes and lazies who clog the system?

Fake PTS is probably far more common than Stolen Valor, because it’s easier to fake and less likely you’ll get caught, but just as shameful and much more hurtful to the veteran community, not to mention those folks who really do suffer from it and won’t seek treatment.

The VA isn't to blame here.  We all went to them and argued that claims for PTSD should streamlined, as the VA system is non-adversarial.  Unfortunately, what seems to be happening is that people are just claiming stuff I guess to get the money. 

The end result is that people who need the help won't get it, and the people who don't need it will be working hard to get their monthly checks.  It's just sad.

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Where did you report this person.i find it hard to report people.its not a very politically correct thing to do these days and most people that I talk to agree with me but no one ever reports because they are scared of being labeled as a non supporter of military.

Three psychologist found that I had PTSD from numerous experiences in service and Nam (26). Went to six months of counseling. No help. Still can't sleep, happy meter down, easy to get my temper meter high. Have night mares, sweats, etc. Claim turned down because rater found that having VA psychologists were a conflict of interests in determing my condition. I am not making this up. One psychologist told me that she regreted that they were unable to help me. Went to a private psychologist, state licensed. After several hours of interviewing me and administering the GAF, found I had PTSD and should rate 75%. Haven't heard from VA for fifteen months. Hell of a system.
I had eleven months in Nam, driving an ammunition truck, hauling 40 tons of ammo aload, 16 tons of black power, or 1000 lb. bombs. It wasn't exactly a walk in the park. Convoys to Anwa were hit every time. On Okinawa we hauled grunts to Northern jungle warfare school. Very dangerous roads. A lot of shit happened. It amazes me that the raters won't take the word of four psychologist. As for the guys who think this is vodo science, you obviously were not in a combat zone for any period of time, in a dangerous assignment. I assure you the grunts who volunteered to ride shotgun with me, only did it one day, then returned to their units. All of them told me they had no idea how dangerous driving an ammo truck could be. All of them told me they could atleast hit the dirt when under fire. We were sitting ducks. Should we get compensation: go through what we have been through for 50 years and then ask me that question.

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Some of you guy's are full shit.. you served in combat and signed the dotted line, your country should take care of you for life.... The American Legion dropped the ball posting this article.... Let the VA weed out the liars... American Legion should focus more
on getting help for and supporting our Veterans...

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She filed for bankruptcy while having a married man living with her, he paid all her expenses, bought her a Harley during bankruptcy and the courts never investigated him as an attributor to her perjury to the courts. Sad part, this married mans wife takes her own life by taking pills and going for a swim…very strange. Anyway, Ms. Hogg takes no responsibility for this loss of life.
She is now a lesbian.
Now, why are able bodied individuals, veteran or not allowed to be protected by the VA and government entities? Why are veterans NOT required to be reevaluated on a yearly basis-they are just milking the system while truly disabled veterans have to wait.
I hope Trump makes a note of all the fraud and takes appropriate action.

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I personally know of someone who openly brags about his false claim. He buddy uped to a recruiter and had his reserve years counted as full years and falsely claims ptsd to get free money.he states that they can't tell you it happens if you have friends in place to verify your claim.

Report it • a month ago
I reported many,many times VA fraud by a VA mental health counselor, yes, a mental health counselor who doesn’t receive any mental health counseling for herself. Instead Corinne Hogg chooses to manipulate the VA system, receiving 90% disability for a bunch of bogus, nonsense claims she is never reevaluated for-the VA just dowels out $1,900 a month of tax free dollars. You may ask what a person like this does with her money? Well, she buys expensive clothing, drinks heavily (DUI record), parties and plays a phony role. I pity anyone within the VA seeking mental health from this person in Ft Collins, CO. She has been able to manipulate to her advantage, the VA. She earned her degree-compliments of the VA and earns a hefty yearly income, gets even better without having to do follow-ups on her alleged disabilities. No people she is not a combat veteran. The VA has been protecting her reputation while I continue to ask them to investigate, they clean up after this person.
She filed for bankruptcy while having a married man living with her, he paid all her expenses, bought her a Harley during bankruptcy and the courts never investigated him as an attributor to her perjury to the courts. Sad part, this married mans wife takes her own life by taking pills and going for a swim…very strange. Anyway, Ms. Hogg takes no responsibility for this loss of life.
She is now a lesbian.
Now, why are able bodied individuals, veteran or not allowed to be protected by the VA and government entities? Why are veterans NOT required to be reevaluated on a yearly basis-they are just milking the system while truly disabled veterans have to wait.
I hope Trump makes a note of all the fraud and takes appropriate action.
lets end VA fraud which is rampant amongst our fraud cases that veterans claim. What about reevaluating an helping the veterans who are truly in need and deserve the help.
It is a well known fact that veterans are milking the system for every dime they can get. The below person on "Report it", even tried to get bunions as a rating. She has managed to work her way to 90%, non combat veteran who was not allowed to reenlist due to Court Marshalls-she made a deal with the military in to not attempt to reenlist and received an honorable discharge many years ago. She claims PTSD due to an alleged incident in Jacksonville, NC , while in the military, the police did NOT believe her, the VA never looked into the true facts, not to mention she could and should have been discharged for adultery, she told me all of this personally, out of her own mouth. She is a and was a drinker and promiscuous in her lifestyle, this leading to her VA disability rating. Why are veterans allowed to receive disability with no counseling. The federal/state government is protecting her(they do not look into her actions and legal issues) which I have made, don't look into her bankruptcy fraud, military disability fraud. This because she works as a "social worker" for the VA.

Report it • a month ago
I reported many,many times VA fraud by a VA mental health counselor, yes, a mental health counselor who doesn’t receive any mental health counseling for herself. Instead Corinne Hogg chooses to manipulate the VA system, receiving 90% disability for a bunch of bogus, nonsense claims she is never reevaluated for-the VA just dowels out $1,900 a month of tax free dollars. You may ask what a person like this does with her money? Well, she buys expensive clothing, drinks heavily (DUI record), parties and plays a phony role. I pity anyone within the VA seeking mental health from this person in Ft Collins, CO. She has been able to manipulate to her advantage, the VA. She earned her degree-compliments of the VA and earns a hefty yearly income, gets even better without having to do follow-ups on her alleged disabilities. No people she is not a combat veteran. The VA has been protecting her reputation while I continue to ask them to investigate, they clean up after this person.
She filed for bankruptcy while having a married man living with her, he paid all her expenses, bought her a Harley during bankruptcy and the courts never investigated him as an attributor to her perjury to the courts. Sad part, this married mans wife takes her own life by taking pills and going for a swim…very strange. Anyway, Ms. Hogg takes no responsibility for this loss of life.
She is now a lesbian.
Now, why are able bodied individuals, veteran or not allowed to be protected by the VA and government entities? Why are veterans NOT required to be reevaluated on a yearly basis-they are just milking the system while truly disabled veterans have to wait.
I hope Trump makes a note of all the fraud and takes appropriate action.
lets end VA fraud which is rampant amongst our fraud cases that veterans claim. What about reevaluating an helping the veterans who are truly in need and deserve the help.
It is a well known fact that veterans are milking the system for every dime they can get. The below person on "Report it", even tried to get bunions as a rating. She has managed to work her way to 90%, non combat veteran who was not allowed to reenlist due to Court Marshalls-she made a deal with the military in to not attempt to reenlist and received an honorable discharge many years ago. She claims PTSD due to an alleged incident in Jacksonville, NC , while in the military, the police did NOT believe her, the VA never looked into the true facts, not to mention she could and should have been discharged for adultery, she told me all of this personally, out of her own mouth. She is a and was a drinker and promiscuous in her lifestyle, this leading to her VA disability rating. Why are veterans allowed to receive disability with no counseling. The federal/state government is protecting her(they do not look into her actions and legal issues) which I have made, don't look into her bankruptcy fraud, military disability fraud. This because she works as a "social worker" for the VA.

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I have had two myomectomy, abdominal in 05/2012 and laparoscopy in 02/2014. I have never been pregnant; not to my knowing. I’m feeling hopeless and the fibroids are growing again. Doctor said that it look like I may need another myomectomy. I know that I have a fibroid the size of a goose egg(6cm).so i was online looking for help when i saw a post about this dr buba who has helped many with root ans herbs so i wrote to him he gave me some advice and told me what to do which i did then he sent a bottle of a herbal drug to me through DHL which i used for seven days and today i am cured already all thanks to him if you
are in my shoes or have any related sickness
HIV AND AIDS
HERPES
CANCER
STDS
Etc
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30 years ago, on shows like 60 Minutes, vets reveal how they faked PTSD.........but people fake workmens comp, too. Ohio eaxminers say on TV that when a person is on comp......they never want to go off....getting checks and not having to work is better than working for a nasty sadistic boss.
People fake more than PTSD for the VA...they fake movement, pain, symptoms, etc.....all you have to do is go to a medicaL book and memorize the symptons.....,this has been on TV 40 years.....most of the NY railway workers have all faked disability, as on CBS News

Am really happy that i and my husband are cured of (HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS) with the herbal medicine of Dr Ayo , i have been suffering from this disease for the past 3 years without solution until i came across his email of this doctor who have cure so many people with his herbal medicine, i also choose to give him a chance to help me and my husband, he told me what to do and i kindly did it, and he gave us his herbal medicine and direct me on how to use it, i also follows his instruction for use and he ask us to
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HIV/AIDS

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News from the World of Military and Veterans Issues. Iraq and A-Stan in parenthesis reflects that the author is currently deployed to that theater.