Of Predator Drones and Due Process...

Was the attack that killed Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan justified under US and International Law?
Just to give a basic framework of the discussion, the Palm Beach Post lays it out rather nicely:
The killing of the U.S.-born Al-Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki on Friday along with another U.S. citizen and two other Al-Qaeda operatives in Yemen is likely to fuel the international controversy over the legality and wisdom of the Obama administration's dramatically increased use of drone attacks.
For several years, U.S. allies have made no public comment, even as U.S. drone strikes have killed twice as many suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban members than were ever imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay. But that acquiescence may change, as human rights groups and the media debate the legality and collateral damage of drone attacks. The U.S. drone program has been highly effective in killing senior Al-Qaeda leaders, but the administration needs to better explain and defend its use of drones to avoid losing international support and potentially exposing administration officials to legal liability
The U.S. position, under the Bush and Obama administrations, has been that drone strikes against Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders are permitted by the September 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force Act, which empowered the president to use "all necessary and appropriate force" against nations, organizations or persons who planned, committed or aided the Sept. 11 attacks. The United States also believes that drone strikes are permitted under international law and the United Nations Charter as actions in self-defense, with or without the consent of the country where the strike takes place.
It’s perhaps easiest to start with the people who think that it was not justified, which seems to range across the political spectrum, but noticeably more present at the far peripheries. From the far left, it is customary for me to start with Glenn Greenwald of Salon…
What’s most striking about this is not that the U.S. Government has seized and exercised exactly the power the Fifth Amendment was designed to bar (“No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law”), and did so in a way that almost certainly violates core First Amendment protections (questions that will now never be decided in a court of law). What’s most amazing is that its citizens will not merely refrain from objecting, but will stand and cheer the U.S. Government’s new power to assassinate their fellow citizens, far from any battlefield, literally without a shred of due process from the U.S. Government. Many will celebrate the strong, decisive, Tough President’s ability to eradicate the life of Anwar al-Awlaki — including many who just so righteously condemned those Republican audience members as so terribly barbaric and crass for cheering Governor Perry’s execution of scores of serial murderers and rapists: criminals who were at least given a trial and appeals and the other trappings of due process before being killed.
Meanwhile from the right we have Presidential candidates Ron Paul and Herman Cain representing the libertarian and conservative wings. First, Ron Paul:
"No, I don't think that's a good way to deal with our problems,” Paul said in a videotape of the questioning by reporters. Awlaki “was never tried or charged for any crimes. No one knows if he killed anybody. We know he might have been associated with the ‘underwear bomber.’ But if the American people accept this blindly and casually that we now have an accepted practice of the president assassinating people who he thinks are bad guys. I think it's sad.”…
“I think, what would people have said about Timothy McVeigh? We didn't assassinate him, who certainly had done it,” Paul said. McVeigh “was put through the courts then executed. … To start assassinating American citizens without charges, we should think very seriously about this.”
Paul argued that the killing of Awlaki was different from the attack on Bin Laden because Bin Laden was involved in the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.
Frankly, the Ron Paul logic on this one escapes me entirely. How is it different? Bin Ladin was never put on trial either, so was it just that 9/11 changes it? And who exactly makes the decision as to whether one event is strong enough to overcome the need for a trial, and another is not. I’d like to give the Dr., the benefit of the doubt and assumed he was misquoted, and/or there was something else he said to bolster this line of thinking, but I have been looking for two days and found nothing.
Meanwhile, Hermann Cain is being no less difficult to pin down on this one. On May 5 of this year, Cain said
"He should be charged. And since he's an American citizen, he should be tried in our courts," Cain said of al-Awlaki. When asked if he considered it legal for President Obama to order al-Awlaki killed, Cain said, "In his case, no, because he's an American citizen."
This week, somewhat inexplicably, he stated:
“I never said that [President Obama] should not have ordered [the killing]. I don’t recall saying that. I think you’ve got some misinformation," Cain said. "Keep in mind that there are a lot of people out there trying to make me sound as if I am indecisive."
“I don’t know all of the compelling evidence that the intelligence agencies and the military had. I’m convinced—I’m convinced that they have enough intelligence information that said he’s a threat to the United States of America,” Cain said. “You don’t try to prosecute or capture him simply because he’s a United States citizen.”
Unfortunately, we don’t have a particularly clear-cut explanation of the legal thinking of the White House, as the memo that was drafted is secret….
The Justice Department wrote a secret memorandum authorizing the lethal targeting of Anwar al-Aulaqi, the American-born radical cleric who was killed by a U.S. drone strike Friday, according to administration officials.
The document was produced following a review of the legal issues raised by striking a U.S. citizen and involved senior lawyers from across the administration. There was no dissent about the legality of killing Aulaqi, the officials said.
“What constitutes due process in this case is a due process in war,” said one of the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss closely held deliberations within the administration.
The closest that we have to a legal reasoning is a speech by John O. Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism before the Program on Law and Security at the Harvard Law School:
In the face of this ongoing and evolving threat, the Obama Administration has worked to establish a counterterrorism framework that has been effective in enhancing the security of our nation. This framework is guided by several core principles.
First, our highest priority is – and always will be – the safety and security of the American people. As President Obama has said, we have no greater responsibility as a government.
Second, we will use every lawful tool and authority at our disposal. No single agency or department has sole responsibility for this fight because no single department or agency possesses all the capabilities needed for this fight.
Third, we are pragmatic, not rigid or ideological – making decisions not based on preconceived notions about which action seems “stronger,” but based on what will actually enhance the security of this country and the safety of the American people. We address each threat and each circumstance in a way that best serves our national security interests, which includes building partnerships with countries around the world.
Fourth—and the principle that guides all our actions, foreign and domestic—we will uphold the core values that define us as Americans, and that includes adhering to the rule of law. And when I say “all our actions,” that includes covert actions, which we undertake under the authorities provided to us by Congress. President Obama has directed that all our actions—even when conducted out of public view—remain consistent with our laws and values.
Now, I don’t really see much of a legal argument per se in there, but everyone else is pointing to this speech as the justification. So, in the meantime, I guess we just have to guess as to what it is, and try to find a way to differentiate the Greenwald/Paul/Cain reasoning from that of the White House.
Either way, what do you guys think? Was the strike legally justifiable or not?
UPDATE: This article in Military.com today gives me a little more to go on....
A secret panel of mid-level national security officials has been established that can put American citizens on a “kill or capture” list that is ultimately sent to the White House for final approval.
The panel’s recommendations first go through a group of National Security Council “principals” – meaning Cabinet secretaries and intelligence chiefs – for approval before reaching the president’s desk, according to a report today by Reuter’s.
There is no public record of the panel’s workings and no law actually establishing it or spelling out its functions.
I don't know if that makes me more or less apprehensive about this. Is Congress cool with the President making this quasi-Judicial body without any legislative input?
If anyone is reading an inherent bias on my part in the preceding, I'd love to know what that bias is, because I honestly have no clue how I feel about this whole thing. I feel uncomfortable with secret bodies not authorized by legislation authorizing things like killings. On the other hand, Awlaki needed to be ventilated and good riddance to bad rubbish. But, we should always think worst case scenario with these sorts of things. Can you envision a scenario where a US Citizen is killed abroad with a drone attack, and he didn't have what was coming to him? Probably we all can. So, what safeguard is there? That's where I get somewhat lost.
Update X2: The family of Samir Khan issued this press release today:
We, the family of Samir Khan, in our time of grief and mourning, request that the media let us have our peace and privacy during this difficult time.
It has been stated in the media that Samir was not the target of the attack; however no U.S. official has contacted us with any news about the recovery of our son’s remains, nor offered us any condolences.
As a result, we feel appalled by the indifference shown to us by our government.
Being a law-abiding citizen of the United States, our late son Samir Khan never broke any law and was never implicated of any crime. The Fifth Amendment states that no citizen shall be 'deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law' yet our government assassinated two of its citizens.
Was this style of execution the only solution? Why couldn’t there have been a capture and trial?
Where is the justice? As we mourn our son, we must ask these questions.
Sincerely,
The Khan Family.
I find that mildly ridiculous, because one of the last things Samir wrote was an article in the Al Qaeda Magazine entitled "I am proud be a traitor to America." So, he was a law-abiding self-professed traitor? Something doesn't add up there wouldn't you say?
My Friends at My Pet Jawa are also decidedly unpleased, and included this picture of Sami's article...

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Bob Nichols (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 7:22am
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Drones
If they save the lives of American soldiers and take the enemy's then I think we need to mass produce them. The bleeding heart liberals is trying to sell this country down the river and don't care how many service men or women gave their lives so that they could have the freedom of speech to condemn them. if you don't like this country and the way the men have died to defend it then take your self to antoher country, we Don't need you
Rondo Stewart (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 7:30am
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Drone attacks
With thousands of IED's planted in their soils and snipers or suicide bombers everywhere a few well placed drones to kill their leadarshhip has no arguement from me. Hell yes hit them where it hurts.
Save American lives, end the war and get out. Conventional warfare no longer exists.
Renny (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 7:31am
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... against all enemies,
... against all enemies, foreign and domestic ...
Dennis Ritchie (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 7:32am
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Awalki
The Justice Department should first place all enemy combatants that are American Citizens on a list removing their right to citizenship and provide them with the option to return to the United States to regain their citizenship. If they do not take the steps to regain their citizenship, then they should be placed on a public listing indicating that they are in fact enemy combatants and are subject to reprisal as such. That is due process enough, unless of course, you could tape a subpoena to missiles and deliver due process in that manner.
Matt (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 8:02am
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I am glad the U.S. took out
I am glad the U.S. took out this scumbag. He was not an American citizen anymore and was committing acts of war against this country. I am sick and tired of coddling these terrorists. The enemy knows our weakness; its bleeding hearts. I'm all for the rule of law, but some time it even goes to far to protect the obviously heinous criminal!!!
Phil (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 8:05am
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Treason
Getting back to the main topic, America is in a state of War with Al-Qaeda, any American Citizens that side with Al-Qaeda, (whether it be Military or Civilian citizens) are in violation of Treason. With that violation should come execution, as stated in Military Law in a time of war. Should we take them to court first, Maybe, if you can catch and get them to court. If you can not or expect to loose visibitly of the individuals, then you execute them any way possible. After all - again this is a state of war, and we want more of our patriotic military men and women to survive another day.
Peter Daly (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 8:28am
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Due process
Where does the due process of american citizens end? Right at the instant you become an enemy of the state and plot the death of innocent Americans. Can't believe this issue was even brought up. The ACLU has stepped over the line on this one.
Robert (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 8:53am
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Killing 250,000 american citizens
We killed (disease included) 250,000+ Confederates because they took up arms against the United States. No constitutional problem with that!
Bob Smith (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 9:03am
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Of course we must kill the violent ones!
Come on! When John Dillinger was robbing baks and killing people, would we worry about his rights as we shot him? When we are seeking a fugitive, they have no rights when we must do what is necessary to get them. Peacefully, for trial, if possible. But so what if they get killed while a fugitive. If wse don't stop them, then who is responsible for others that die from their actions. Your rights are gone when you are a violent fugitive.
shirley semanision (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 9:11am
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drone attack
Good intelligence + good timing + confirmed terrorist target = good kill In the end God will sort it all out.
William Johnston (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 9:22am
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drone
The comment from Ron Paul was showing a complete lack of understanding as to the need to continually remove the enemies of the United States. trying to capture these leaders is unduly putting our special forces on a hazardous position. If we can use drones to eliminate these leaders it is to our benefit.
As for the justification of this action. Yes it was justified.the reasoning that he was an American citizen is of no consequence as he was a leader of a foreign promoting harm and destruction to America and it's citizens
and had to be handled in the quickest way possible. If the Liberals want to debate this I am available any time.
or if they wish I will take them into action and let them decide for themselves which is the better way....
and pay for the trip
Anonymous (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 9:26am
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While I would be against such
While I would be against such an attack if it was not provoked, the actions against our country and troops by them, have caused us to do such action against them. We are protecting our country and its troops by doing this action.
Michael (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 9:34am
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Everyone has their opinion
Everyone has their opinion thanks to those that wear and have worn the uniforms to defend it. What is frustrating though, are the ones who argue that it was unjustified because of reasons from innocence to no due process of law. Does anybody remember that we are in a war against the very type that was just taken out by a drone? Are we expected as a nation to lay down and spread our proverbial cheeks just to have a conversation with every single human being that attempts an act of terrorism...just to make sure we really do want to kill this person? I'm not about making the world American, but I'm all for making it safer... one less terrorist the better.
TOMMY B (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 9:44am
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Was his killing justified?
Damn Right.
Herb Sr. (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 10:10am
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short and sweet YES
short and sweet YES
Malija (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 10:25am
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Due Process for Armed Combatants and Self-professed Traitors
None.
Eric Simms (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 10:30am
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State Assassinations
When a US Citizen is a self-avowed traitor and enemy of the USA, is hiding from prosecution, and continuing to act as an enemy combatant, then they should die whatever death comes to an enemy combatant, by whatever means available.
Paul (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 10:35am
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My response to your question
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CMD (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 10:43am
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Predator Drones and Due Process
I know for a fact that the Government covers up a lot of things from the people just to show that they are the good guys, and have everything under control. The truth of the matter is simple, they say "lets take this guy out, and see what public response is to it, and then we will see how far we can go". The government has had a hit list for many years, but this one has just come to light, and out in the open. In respect to the to our Constitution a person has a right to dew process of the the law. They just up, and killed two Americans without that process. This gives the Government free reign to target anyone they feel is a threat to that monkey in office, that agrees with a foreign policy of another country, or ANYTHING they feel needs to be addressed using this manner, by becoming Judge, Jury, and Executioner. If you order someone killed it's no different than pulling the trigger yourself, and when its someone that is an American with rights under the Constitution, and Due Process of the law to prove his guilt, that's MURDER. How many will be taken out by Pvt. Contractors in our city streets? How many will simply vanish, because they said something about that Idiot in office? Wake up AMERICA the war we need to fight is not on some foreign soil but rather right here at home. Even Saddam Hussein was given a trial.
Joe S (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:01am
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Drone Strike
This is a simple one. It was a Great idea. He (they) have no rights. The world is a better place without them.
jimandpansy (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:03am
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Since this guy denounced the
Since this guy denounced the U.S., he gave up his rights as a citizen and thus became a traitor. We therefore were justified in our actions. I am also glad it was done with a drone and no loss to our our side happened. More drones should be used to save soldiers lives.
Anonymous (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:11am
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I believe, we need to
I believe, we need to consider these questions: Are we at War? Are our men and women dying? The unequivical answer is yes. I believe he stopped being an American when he decided that Americans should die whether they are innocent civilians or members of our military.
Richard Palka
dan connors (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:28am
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drones
they are the best weapon we've had in year!
Billee Lorig (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:32am
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What Due Process
He gave up his citizenship and moved to another Country. Until the government says we are not at War, we do everything in our power to eliminate them. Did you guys forget 911 or are you a Peace Monkees from the Vietnam War era.
Wayne (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:33am
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Use of Drones to Fight the War on Terror
Difficult situations can't be dealt with White gloves. It's about getting the job done. Bring them to justice, who's justice. All it does is cost the American tax payer more money and gives these traitors publisity. Sure, we see this on TV and say"Alright, brought them to justice," their supporters see this and say, "We wil avenge you." Lose - lose situation. One to the Head and one to the Chest is justice and cost effective.
adonnan (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:40am
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drone attacks
I believe that one of General Patton's statements best fits this, "There are two things that do not belong in a combat zone, the press corp and politicians." This is war people and remember what the cost was in our soldiers lives when politics started being the rule of the battle field. Did the people that planned and facilitated the 9/11 attacks consider the 5th amendment? Did they consider if it held to court rules? NO!! They, not us, set the rules for this engagement by killing civilians in an open act of war. There are those that forget 9/11, just like they forgot Pearl Harbor (at least there our enemy had the courage to attack our military not our civilians). We cannot afford the time, effort or lives to fight a war, on ANY level, that has two sets of rules; those that apply to they (none) and those that we are forced to abide by. I find very little that the current administration has done that I support, but I will with my very being defend our soldiers' rights to fight on an even plying field. God knows how seldom that happens with the liberals in this country!
JERRY (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:55am
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Drone attacks
Pretty simple, really..........if anyone is aiding the enemy, then, they too become the enemy!!!!
tom metzger (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 11:59am
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Assasination
Whatever is allowed over their will sooner or later be allowed here. In fact assasinations are very acceptable to the Empire.
Gary V (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:00pm
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Due Process
The guy is a self professed traitor in so doing he denounced his citezennship in my opinion, hence treat him as such. He just saved us all the expense.
Gary V (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:01pm
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Due Process
The guy is a self professed traitor in so doing he denounced his citezennship in my opinion, hence treat him as such. He just saved us all the expense.
Dwight (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:02pm
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Due process is for citizens
Due process is for citizens of the USA. How do you call yourself a citizen and attack your country and not expect to be fired on in return.
Rob C (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:10pm
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American terroist at war against our country
If a American citizen elects to wage war against this country, then as far as I am concerned, he or she denounced their citizenship by that act.. These people have now become my enemy..
Liberals have a way of make an act like this look barbarian, but, scream for the military when they create a situation that has them "under the gun". This terrorist was engaged in the distruction of my country, and I would not hesitate to "push the button" on them...
Mario Covi (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:14pm
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I agree with all those that
I agree with all those that said he deserved to be killed. People that turned against their Country USA, and its citizens are no longer eligible to that country's constitutions protections.
Roboman (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:42pm
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Due process is guaranteed in
Due process is guaranteed in our nation. These American traitors are a disgrace but thta does not change the fact that we must, despite its risks, follow the law. If we were to charge Anwar al-Awlaki & Samir Khan or any other american with treason they must have a trial and then we can employ the means necessary to netralize the threat. Either we belive in our rights and laws or we don't. The latter is a slippery slope in a nation with eroding individual rights and I urge my fellow Americans to consider that even when we find the actions to our liking. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -Benjamin Franklin
Larry (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:55pm
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Drone attack
Who cares about the legalaties I know it's another dead terriost. You forget he was American only in the citizenship he had. When he went jihadist he gave up all his rights.
MAJ Jack Doyle ... (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 12:59pm
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Was the attack that killed Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan justif
Of course, they were enemy combatants and in any war a soldiers duty is to kill enemy combatants or else they will kill. Get over this bleeding liberal crap and recognize these guys religion orders them to kill all non-believers. So unless you are a Muslim, that means YOU!
John Kelleher (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 1:02pm
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DRONES
WAS THE WORLD TRADE CENTER LEGAL, ? WAS PEARL HARBOR LEGAL,? IS KILLING REPORTERS LEGAL,?WHEN A PERSON VOWS TO DESTROY A COUNTRY AND ITS WAY OF LIFE LEGAL, ? SOME OF THE COMMENTS I READ HERE AMAZE ME AND THE STRETCH OF IMAGINATION USED IS SCARY, WAKE UP PEOPLE THESE FOLKS DON'T WANT US ALIVE i FOR ONE AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY AND A MARINE FELL THAT A DEAD ENEMY BEATS A LIVE ONE IF YOU AGREE FINE IF NOT I FOUGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO DISAGREE SEMPER FI
John Kelleher (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 1:03pm
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DRONES
WAS THE WORLD TRADE CENTER LEGAL, ? WAS PEARL HARBOR LEGAL,? IS KILLING REPORTERS LEGAL,?WHEN A PERSON VOWS TO DESTROY A COUNTRY AND ITS WAY OF LIFE LEGAL, ? SOME OF THE COMMENTS I READ HERE AMAZE ME AND THE STRETCH OF IMAGINATION USED IS SCARY, WAKE UP PEOPLE THESE FOLKS DON'T WANT US ALIVE i FOR ONE AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY AND A MARINE FELL THAT A DEAD ENEMY BEATS A LIVE ONE IF YOU AGREE FINE IF NOT I FOUGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO DISAGREE SEMPER FI
Gary Beck (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 1:05pm
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Legality
I am glad they are dead. And it appears a court justice issued some form of a warrant. Perhaps a judge should indict on basis of the facts offered, then offer such us born terrorists a trial, if he does not show, try him in absentia. Then all bets off and a death warrant issued by the court.
MOTHAX
October 7, 2011 - 1:07pm
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That is my take in a nutshell
That is my take in a nutshell as well. Just try them in Absentia, let the ACLU or somesuch group represent them. These guys would have been dead either way, but it might be a little "neater".
SP5Mike (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 1:49pm
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All's fair in love and WAR!
All's fair in love and WAR!
Eleanor Allen (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 1:50pm
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droon was justified
he was a traitor to me and any action to take him and his people out is justified. If you are born in this country and side with the enemy as a terroist then you get what ever comes to anyone who hates this country.Let them burn in hell for what they have done
M Winston IV (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 2:09pm
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Of Predator Drones and Due Process
Those Americans both got their just rewards. That being said, there should've been an attempt to afford them due process under the 6th Ammendment of the US Constitution, "... trial by a jury, guarantees the right to legal counsel for the accused, and guarantees that the accused may require witnesses to attend the trial and testify in the presence of the accused. It also guarantees the accused a right to know the charges against him...." We are a nation of laws and our enforcement our laws is something that separates the US from many of our enemies. The 'approval' process should've gone through unbiased judges instead of Administration attorneys. Cantrast this activity with the Obama administration’s decision to try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, in a civilian court in Manhattan. There seems to be inconsistency here.
sunkgleska (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 2:16pm
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can we kill enemy combatants with out a trial
ABSOLUTELY and I don 't want to hear any PASRSING words from legal types. You don't get a lawyer to defend you when you are in a foxhole and under mortar attack. Enemy combatants also include the leaders who are not on the front lines but giving the orders. nothing more nothing less...YUP
Ricardo (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 2:33pm
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predator drones
The whole world and every country in it are warned when President Bush signed the Executive Order to hunt dead or alive those who will or intend to attack this country and its interest. A warning known world wide. This should include any religious cleric who promote to kill or attack U.S. and its personnel. May they be foreign or citizen of this country.
Ricardo (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 2:34pm
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predator drones
The whole world and every country in it are warned when President Bush signed the Executive Order to hunt dead or alive those who will or intend to attack this country and its interest. A warning known world wide. This should include any religious cleric who promote to kill or attack U.S. and its personnel. May they be foreign or citizen of this country.
John M. O'Connor (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 2:43pm
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Predator
Let's get this right from the start. It would have been nice to have tried these enemy combatants in a court or by military commision (preferred method). These two traitors did not deserve a trial. As enemy combatants they have no rights under the Constitution of the United States. The U.S. should have stripped them of their citizenship right from the get-go, at the very first sign of their defector status. If this would have been done we wouldn't need to be having this conversation. Just think of the money we saved by delivering a nice rocket from a predator drone. Sorry about their luck.
Sgt Shat (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 4:53pm
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Enemy of the State
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120660/
Enemy of the State (1998) - good movie. But should remain fiction.
Joe A. (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 5:34pm
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Predator Drones
Due Process is not part of the anti-terrorism plan and should never be part of it. As Dick Cheney once said "we will hunt down the terrorist and we will kill them". Enough said. Terrorist are not soldiers and therefore are not subject to the rules of engagement. Kill them, erradicate them from this planet by all means available - and that includes Predator Drones!
Huey Mitchell (not verified)
October 7, 2011 - 5:35pm
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Drone Killing of US Citizen
They have declared WAR on us. In war, no trials, no questioning in battle. If you consort and cavort with the enemy, let the bombs fall where they may. They chose their side to support and being a US citizen is irrelivant.
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